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Fabien Riggall

Silencing the Discursive Mind



Sooner or later, we needed to do a show about film. 

With its potential for scale, resource intensiveness, and power to transfix the viewer, film is in many ways the ultimate creative business. 

Fabien Riggall is the founder of Secret Cinema, a London-based immersive theatrical experience that puts the audience at the heart of the story. He is the inventor of a hybrid genre between film and theater, creating inhabitable cinematic worlds in which participants are both members of the scene and audience to a film screening. Under Fabien’s direction, Secret Cinema welcomed over 1.5 million guests to 60 productions from Shanghai to Los Angeles, and after 16 years was acquired in a reported $100M sale.

During this interview, Fabien walks listeners through what it’s like to attend a Secret Cinema production and the narrative devices used for immersive worldbuilding. He answers questions about scaling the business and the human desire for escapist, transportive experiences. We discuss social media addiction, UK rave culture, the allure of wild swimming, and the imperative to choose investors wisely.

We conducted this interview in London’s Somerset House, former seat of the Royal Navy Admiralty. 

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Show Index

02:57 The Secret Cinema Experience
09:34 Building a Business from Immersive Experiences
18:53 The Impact of Secret Cinema
31:06 Achieving Scale, Investors, and Acquisition 
35:00 Licensing and IP Strategy
42:30 Rave Culture and Inspirations
51:09 Future Projects and Advice for Entrepreneurs
53:40 Quickfire Round and Final Thoughts


Show Notes



Ep. 23 — Sophia Amoruso

Sauce Boss Meets Girlboss


Ep. 22 — Daniel Goldhaber

Movies by Any Means Necessary


Ep. 21 — Dinara Kasko

Have Your Cake and Tweet It Too


Ep. 20 — Nicolas Jammet

Greens to Greatness


Ep. 19 — Thomas Kemeny

Writing Your Way Ahead


Ep. 18 — Clare Vivier

Liberté, Intégrité, Simplicité


Ep. 17 — Alex Bogusky

Peace, Love, and Advertising


Ep. 16 — Alexis Gay

The Unprofessional Professional


Ep. 15 — Seth Godin

Idea Virus Patient Zero


Ep. 14 — Nicholas Coleman

Chasing Liquid Gold


Ep. 13 — Gabe Whaley

Making MSCHF


Ep. 12 — Kareem Rahma

Internet Funnyman


Ep. 11 — Amanda Hesser

Building a Digital Hearth


Ep. 10 — Shane Heath

No Mud, No Lotus


Ep. 9 — Michael Dubin

You Can’t Just Switch It Off


Ep. 8 — Scott Norton

Purpose & Play


Ep. 7 — Chris Nee

Creative Courage and Talking Stuffed Animals


Ep. 6 — Fabien Riggall

Silencing the Discursive Mind


Ep. 5 — Danielle Baskin

Striking Internet Gold


Ep. 4 — Alexander Gilkes

Givers Are Getters


Ep. 3 — Susan MacTavish Best

Hosting a Rave for the Intellect


Ep. 2 — John Fiorentino

The Hunt for Big Ideas


Ep. 1 — Eric Ryan

Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal



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